Friends,
There is a book that has been making the rounds in the pop-culture section of ‘christian’ book stores for some time now. The book is titled 90 Minutes in Heaven and it was written by a man named Don Piper. I don’t know Don Piper, I haven’t read the book. Turns out, Mr. Piper has a new book out titled Heaven is Real. I haven’t read it either. The cover of the book (at least in the picture in the catalogue) says this: “Lessons on Earthly Joy–from the Man Who Spent 90 Minutes in Heaven.” The book retails for $21.95 at Family Christian Stores.
Now, here’s the thing and 90 Minutes in Heaven which is blurbed this way, ‘On the way home from a conference, Don Piper’s car was crushed by a semi. Medical personnel said he died instantly. While his body lay lifeless, Don experienced the glories of heaven and his moving story will touch your life.” (From the FCS catalogue.)
I remember the apostle Paul also knew a man who ‘was caught up into the third heaven.’ And Paul wrote of this man, ‘He heard inexpressible things, things that man is not permitted to tell’ (2 Corinthians 12:4). It makes me wonder what authority Don Piper has to disclose the things he saw and heard. I’m sure there are plenty of testimonials from medical personnel testifying that Mr Piper was indeed dead. I’m not disputing this at all. I’m disputing the underlying premise to the publication of such a book (which is not even about the money he has made from 1 million reputed sales of the book. Well, I just checked something. On the cover of 90 Minutes it says there’s 150,000 copies in print. On the cover of Heaven it says he is the author of the ‘1 million-copy bestseller.’ I don’t know which it is.)
Here’s my point. First of all, did this man really take in all there is in heaven in a mere 90 minutes? I’d think that the vision he received is a rather small vision if that is true. But I digress. Consider this parable from Jesus found in Luke 16 (NIV):
“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22″The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25″But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27″He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29″Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30″ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31″He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “
The problem with books like this is that they are essentially meaningless and would tend to produce the sort of mysticism that Jesus is warning us about here in this parable (although there is some dispute about whether or not this is a parable). “They will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.” Such stories about heaven are not convincing.
This book falls into line with other books of a similar nature: So-called ‘prophecy’ books. These books tend to replace Scripture, and in some cases, become Scripture for people. I think this is the problem with Left Behind (besides the abysmal theology), Purpose Driven Life, and 90 Minutes. Who can disprove what Mr Piper has written? How can we doubt his experience? Those who call into question such ‘experiences’ are called liars or doubters or worse. How dare anyone call into question another’s experience! It doesn’t matter if it squares with Scripture or not: It’s the experience that matters. And when the experience is real, Scripture is trumped. (This is Luke Timothy Johnson’s argument for homosexuality. See my previous post concerning this.) In fact, this is the argument from most homosexuals regarding homosexuality and Scripture.
But I am calling it into question and after I read it, I’ll have more to say. Friends, my point is that if Paul wasn’t allowed to speak on what he saw in the third heaven, what makes anyone now thing they are allowed to do so? John the apostle gave us the portrait of heaven that is sufficient: The Revelation of Jesus Christ. There is nothing we can add to John’s portrait that will make it better, but such things might make John’s vision worse because, like Left Behind, we start paying more attention to what humans say about the book than about the book itself.
I’m calling Christians back to Scripture. Get your heads out of fantasy and into Scripture. The main problem we face in the church nowadays is that preachers in particular do not trust in the sufficiency of God’s Word. But let us open up the Bible and open up our minds and listen to what the Spirit said to the Church in Scripture.
Soli Deo Gloria!
jerry




September 27, 2007 at 2:55 pm
I just finished reading “90 Minutes In Heaven” and would have to disagree with you about Don’s motives for writing the book. It did not glorify his time heaven, it truly glorified the Lord and encourages people in their faith in Jesus. He really is bluntly honest and real in the book about what he was thinking during his whole ordeal. If you read the book you will find he was quite reluctant to write the book and it took him more than ten years before this was published. I believe his motives to be pure and a result of the ministry God was calling him to. Maybe you should take the time to read the book and then access it. You will see something genuine, Spirit filled and encouraging for people to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Who are we to question that!
In Christ,
Kelly Graham
September 27, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Kelly,
I don’t think you read too closely what I wrote nor the Scripture I made reference too. Two points:
1) If the apostle Paul was caught up to the third heaven and prohibited from speaking of it, why would Don Piper suddenly get such a privilege? And could he really take in heaven in 90 minutes? The whole premise seems to me absurd.
2) I didn’t really criticize the book specifically but generally. I don’t doubt that people got something out of the book. My criticism is that people take books like this and turn them into Scripture–just like people did with the Left Behind books.
If you need Don Piper’s idea of heaven to help you fine, who am I to argue. However, if Don Piper’s idea is more moving to you than say St John’s in the Revelation, then I would question a lot of things. You may not, but I would.
I think we are right to question everything. We are, in fact, to test the spirits. We are not to believe everything just because it has the word Christian appended to it or because it is labeled ’spiritual.’ I never read anything uncritically and I don’t accept anything anyone says without first testing it against Scripture. And the very title of that book leads to me to think that it is a spirit that I need to reject.
Thanks for replying. (I normally read any book that I criticize or evaluate. In this case, the book was featured prominently in a Family Christian Stores circular. I had to say something. Mostly my criticism is of Family Christian Stores and their merchandise. But that’s a whole other story.)
Thanks for stopping by.
jerry
December 6, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Thank you for posting your comments. I am quite dismayed that so many people don’t see what are the obvious problems with this book. The bad theology is mind-boggling.
December 22, 2007 at 10:17 pm
I was raised as a missionary child and know the Bible since childhood, and just finished reading the book 90 Minutes in Heaven. Don seems to tell his story humbly, directly and honestly. He does not claim to have seen all that there is of Heaven, and he tells only the part that he did see. What part he saw is exactly what the Bible details. Nothing differs from scripture. I don’t think his experience was more moving than John’s Revelation at all, to me. John’s description is far greater! But I think Don’s experience was real. Don was very reluctant to tell his story; from reading, he seems to have a more concrete personality – I know my husband does, and is like Don – not liking to share his deepest experiences or emotions, and never detailing them. If you have ever heard Betty Malz speak of her glimpse of Eternity (see http://www.hcfusa.com/continuingeducationnursing.htm ), her experience was exactly like Don’s, only she experienced a bit more than he did – years before he ever did. And on the testimony of two or more witnesses a thing shall be established. And the life lessons she learned through her illness were great lessons, just as Don’s were when he came back to life. In my particular life, I have also met a third person, personally, who had a glimpse of heaven. Again, very like these two. She knew she had not been allowed to stay because she still had work to do for the Lord on earth. She came back with a strong sense about this. True, Paul (or his friend) who viewed Heaven, heard things he or his friend could not repeat. Does this mean that Don or Betty heard things they could not repeat? They must never have heard the things that Paul (or his friend) did. Or cannot tell us about them. Don’s book seems to through and through glorify Jesus. He speaks of Jesus throughout the book.
Two weeks ago, I was diagnosed with Chiari I malformation of the brain, pseudotumor cerebri and empty sella syndrome. I may have many trials to endure in the year ahead. We had a ‘Secret Sister’ exchange at my work, for Christmas (a secular workplace), and my Secret Sister turned out to be the only other Christian among us, and she gave me this book as one of my gifts just in time for me to take it with me on my trip to New York to see a neurosurgeon specialist who has now diagnosed me with the conditions I listed above. My secret sister did not know I have been in pain, nor that I was going to New York. Throughout the pain from pressure I experienced in flight to New York, and the time alone in the hotel waiting for my appointment, and dealing with my diagnosis the night after my appointment, I read this book by Don Piper. I felt that God had laid it in my hand, as Don, who continues to this day to experience continual pain, as I do, showed me how to praise God through the pain, trust in Christ’s salvation, and cling to Him and thank Him for life despite the serious medical situation and the pain I am enduring daily! I felt God’s Holy Spirit touching me through every page of this book, and that it was the true telling of a real fellow Christian’s experience, matching what scripture has also told me. I have read the entire Bible. I have memorized much of it through the years. I have never discounted experiences that line up with it, but always discount experiences that do not line up with it (think about the New Age book ‘Into the Light’ for instance – Don Piper never saw a tunnel.). I credit you for desiring discernment and I believe everything should be confirmed through God’s Word, including experiences. The book squares with Scripture. I have some trouble with the Purpose Driven Life movement, too. But not with this book. Perhaps they could have packaged it better. But Don seems to me to be fully genuine.
December 23, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Julie,
Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your experiences in life and that you have bothered to shared them with me. Have a merry Christmas.
jerry
December 27, 2007 at 12:38 am
Julie,
You wrote: “What part he saw is exactly what the Bible details. Nothing differs from scripture. I don’t think his experience was more moving than John’s Revelation at all, to me.”
Now, if this is true, then why is the book needed? Why doesn’t Scripture suffice? Why do you need more than what Scripture says? Is Scripture’s picture of ‘heaven’ insufficient? And if Scripture is insufficient at this point, can we rightly claim it is sufficient at any point?
I worry about any book that claims additional information or is based merely on one person’s subjective experience. There is simply no way imaginable to verify this man’s experience. Therefore, it seems to me that it should be read lightly if at all. And, furthermore, it should not supplant Scripture which I fear it may do.
Thanks for stopping by.
jerry
January 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Dan,
I was skeptical about the book until I read it. Be careful my friend, critiquing something you haven’t read is dangerous. It can lead to many things that have a way of biting you on your favorite fishing seat.
January 2, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Jerry,
I’ve was thinking about this post on my way to get gas. Your logic doesn’t seem to follow to me. I hope you don’t consider my disagreeing to be mean spirited in any way. But as I see your argument it goes something like this:
a= Paul went to heaven or had a heaven vision
b=Paul was commanded to not speak about such things
c=this Piper fellow may or may not have had a heaven experience but for the sake of charity you will say he did
d=Because Paul was not allowed to speak about it this guy shouldn’t be allowed to speak about it either
Is that an accurate representation of the basic argument?
January 2, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Joe,
Before I justify my opinions which I have posted at this blog, I would like to ask you to read again what I wrote. I didn’t critique the book as such. I critiqued the authority that published the book. Consider what I wrote:
“It makes me wonder what authority Don Piper has to disclose the things he saw and heard. I’m sure there are plenty of testimonials from medical personnel testifying that Mr Piper was indeed dead. I’m not disputing this at all. I’m disputing the underlying premise to the publication of such a book…”
Now, as to your question about my logic, the flaw is at point d. I don’t think I suggested that he shouldn’t be allowed to speak. I questioned under what authority he did speak. And there is a difference. For me this is ultimately a questionof authority:
“But I am calling it into question and after I read it, I’ll have more to say. Friends, my point is that if Paul wasn’t allowed to speak on what he saw in the third heaven, what makes anyone now thing they are allowed to do so?”
My point is that I don’t know why anyone would need such a book, what niche this sort of book would fill, and what purpose this book would serve. If people are not convinced of heaven because they read it in the Scripture, then, said Jesus, someone coming back from the dead won’t convince them either. Jesus said in Luke 16:31 (which I quoted above):
31″He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “
I’m not denying anything he wrote because, as I said, I haven’t read the book. My concern for the church is when subjective experiences become some sort of ’scripture’ in place of Scripture. I don’t think this concern is invalid. Subjective experiences are just that: subjective. Plenty of people can certainly testify that the man was dead. I have no doubt about that. What I sincerely doubt is that he received a revelation that was above and beyond the New Testament.
That is where the danger comes in for Christians, and, for that matter, all people. Scripture must be the final test.
PS–I don’t take offense to people questioning an idea. We can debate ideas all day long. I should point out that my issues come in when people question people as such. I’m sure Mr. Piper is a very sincere man. I’m not challenging him; I am challenging the authority that someone claims for publishing such a book in the first place.
Other than that, what else can I answer for you?
jerry
January 3, 2008 at 12:49 am
Jerry, Thanks for the response. I believe this statement is a flawed one logically. Perhaps, it is at this root that you and I disagree.
“Friends, my point is that if Paul wasn’t allowed to speak on what he saw in the third heaven, what makes anyone now thing [sic] they are allowed to do so?”
That is a non congruent statement. That is to say that because Paul was forbidden that does not mean that someone else also would be. At best, you are arguing from silence. While I agree with your statement about Scripture must be the final test, your authority question could also be flipped back at you. What I mean is, we could say, “By what authority do you have to speak out against this man?”
Also, we must allow that to some extent interpretation factors into what we believe the Bible says. For instance, there have been many debates over the years that have not been settled with both sides claiming the other side is simply not willing to accept “plain Scripture.”
January 3, 2008 at 11:01 am
Joe,
I don’t think it is non-congruent at all or illogical since we are commanded to test the spirits. Well, how do we do that? Paul wrote that there is one rule of faith and practice: the Gospel. I think we test the spirits not in a lab but against the Scripture.
Furthermore, I didn’t say he couldn’t speak on his experiences. I merely asked the question: IF (a conditional statement) not Paul an Apostle of Jesus Christ who saw the Resurrected Jesus, then why this guy who is not and did not and has no particular authority to? I am not arguing from silence; I am not arguing at all. I am asking a question: Where did the man get his authority to deliver such a message, publish such a book, and make whatever claims he made? How is that non-congruent?
Finally, I’m not speaking out against this man per se since I cannot verify or villify his subjective experiences. I am speaking about the nature of a book that is being advertised by Family Christian Stores in their sales fliers. However, the only authority I have for testing the validity of his claims is the Scripture. I think the Scripture is rather clear that we should not be tossed about by every wind of doctrine that comes down the pike. [I remember also the book 'Embraced by the Light' which was similar in nature and made great waves for a while.] What I am trying hard to understand is what the book hopes to accomplish, what purpose it serves (is he merely interpreting Scripture, is he adding to Scripture, is he validating Scripture, is he contradicting Scripture, is he preaching an extended sermon on the Revelation?)
You know we live in a time when subjective experiences have a tendency to trump Biblical orthodoxy. I disagree that there are ‘interpretation factors into what we believe.’ This is not an interpretation factor. It is a subjective experience factor. It reminds me more of a Carman song than of Biblical Revelation which is complete and sufficient. The straw man here is that this is an issue of Scripture. It isn’t. It is a matter of authority. My concern is just that: Where did the man get such authority to make whatever claims he happened to make, did God command him to write a book about it, and to what end?
That’s the issue with me. I didn’t set up the syllogism, you did. I said the syllogism was flawed at point 4. Again I wrote:
Fact is, Paul was not allowed to speak concerning his subjective experience. But he was allowed to speak on other issues as was, for example, the Apostle John in the Revelation. Again, I’m not even questioning whether or not it happened. I’m questioning the authority he has to utter the inexpressible things he heard and saw. That’s all: I want to know under what authoritative rubric this man is operating. That’s all. Thanks again for stopping by. I hope this helps clear up what I am after.
jerry
PS–I also wrote that I have not read the book and I might change my mind after having done so, but at this point, I don’t see very much that compels me to think it is any different from any other person who has had a ‘near death experience’ or ‘death experience’ and come back to tell about it. Of course, aside from the Resurrected Lord himself. But even he didn’t spend any time during those 40 days telling people, insofar as what is written and preserved for us, about the heavens. He did, however, give many convincing proofs that he was, indeed and in fact, Alive, Resurrected. To me, I would be more impressed if the man just told about the fact that he died and was brought back 90 minutes later. Who cares what he did when he was dead: He’s alive. Isn’t that enough?
January 3, 2008 at 11:35 am
I guess we’re gonna have to agree to disagree. I have a lot of good friends that I do that with.
January 3, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Joe,
OK. That’s fine. Thanks for the engaging conversation. I appreciated it very much.
jerry
February 11, 2008 at 2:54 am
Might want to actually read the book before you waste everyone’s time and write long, verbose opinions on it. This is just downright illogical.
February 11, 2008 at 11:58 am
Dear Duh,
I distinctly remember sending you a letter demanding that you read my post and threatening your teddy bear if you didn’t. If your time was wasted, that is your problem. On the other hand, I’m not so certain you understand what logic is.
jerry
April 30, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Now that I have bothered to read the book, I’m even more put off. I am satisfied that he had a brain injury. He was never “officially” declared dead – vital signs simply couldn’t be found. (I’ve been in that situation before, and I certainly wasn’t dead!) I am most bothered because the idea of spending time in heaven and then coming back to life simply isn’t scriptural, but I was also put off by his rather mundane report of what heaven was like. I sure wouldn’t want my nonchristian friends to get hold of this book! One of the contradictions in the book was that his grandmother no longer had the lump on her back and looked young again, but his grandfather still had a bulbous nose and white hair.