10 More Things that Really Irritate Me (11-20)


Here’s part two in my ongoing list.

11. The assumption that those outside the Church have a right to tell those inside the church how to conduct themselves with respect to the Scripture.

12. The assumption that the Church cannot make statements about sin in this world. It seems it’s OK for the world to judge the church, but the church cannot judge the world.

13. The assumption that faith is invalid evidence for truth.

14. The assumption that only those who accept hedonism and anarchy are culturally advanced.

15. The assumption that Christians are a blight on this world.

16. The assumption that the Church ought to be doing more to solve this or that crisis that the world caused because of sin. Or, for that matter, that we should prevail upon God in our prayers to end this or that catastrophe whose origin is in sin.

17.  The assumption that it is the Church’s responsibility to end world poverty by using our tithes and offerings to supply what the world is lacking.

18. The assumption that the opinion of atheists matters more than the opinion of a Christian.

19. The assumption that God believes in atheists.

20. The assumption that Christ faith has no place in the arenas of politics, public education, and the like.

That’s part two. This is getting depressing. I’ll try to keep the angst to a minimum. I’m just tired to death of the unbelievers in this world thinking that their ideas are all that matters–that they are the true shapers of opinion and culture. You might call this my 95 Thesis to the World.



4 thoughts on “10 More Things that Really Irritate Me (11-20)

  1. For grins, here is my list:

    1. The assumption that those inside the Church have the right to tell those outside the Church how to conduct their lives.

    2. The assumption that the world really cares what those inside the church say about it.

    3. The assumption that faith has uncovered any sort of truth, given that there are a billion different varieties of faith.

    4. The assumption that those who worship imaginary beings and reject reason are culturally advance.

    5. The assumption that Christians are a light to this world.

    6. The assumption that the Church does more good than harm in the world.

    7. The assumption that the Church can possibly have no impact on the rest of the world.

    8. The assumption that the opinion of Christians matters much at all.

    9. The assumption that atheists secretly believe in the existence of (your) god.

    10. The assumption that Christ faith has any relevance in the arenas of politics, public eduction, and the like.

    Sound ridiculous? Then you can understand how a nonbeliever might view your list.

    Let me end with one last assumption that pisses me off:

    11. That there is an entity called “the Church” and its members all agree.

  2. Robert,

    For grins, a couple of thoughts on your list.

    1. If you have read this blog enough you would know that I happen to agree with your first assumption. In fact, I don’t think the church has a right to demand certain moral standards of people who are not christians.

    2. I’ve never made this assumption. Although, to be sure, the world should care if the world hopes for salvation. The world should care what God has said about it. Oh, he gave us 66 books about what he thinks of it. “For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son that whosoever believes in him would not perish but have eternal life.” (John 3:16)

    3. Actually, the Bible says there is only One Faith. (Ephesians 4:5)

    4. Uh, this one is just stupid because there are no Christians who worship ‘imaginary beings’ and I don’t know any who reject ‘reason’. Although, “The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, ‘I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.’ Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?” (1 Corinthians 1:18-20)

    5. Again, not an assumption, but a biblical truth spoken by Jesus (Matthew 5:14). You really don’t read much do you?

    6. Can you prove otherwise?

    7. You must have typed no. 7 incorrectly because I actually happen to believe that the church will, and in fact does, have an impact on the world. Bible says the church ‘turned the world upside down’ with the Gospel. And also says that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

    8. The world has made it clear that the opinion of Christians doesn’t matter. I have no problem with this assumption since it is actually an every day, common occurance. That’s why Christians are continually persecuted in various places around the world.

    9. I’m not sure who makes this assumption. But frankly, why would I assume that the mere belief in God is anything meaningful anyhow? The Bible says that even demons believe in God–and shudder. Your point is lost because mere belief is meaningless apart from Christ.

    10. See no’s 1, 6, & 8.

    No, your list is not ridiculous at all. Not very well thought out, yes; but not ridiculous. I appreciate those with whom I can interact and share my faith in the God who saved us. The thing that should piss you off is that there are a bunch of people who want all of us to accept things such as Darwinism without actually thinking about it or investigating it. But that is what non-thinking people do, isn’t it? It is the Darwinist and atheist who is against reason not the Christian.

    And, as for no. 11? There is a Church (Scripture is clear on that point!), and all of it’s members do not need to agree on all doctrinal points in order to be the church. Where does it say in the Scripture that all Christians accept the same things? At the core of Christian faith is belief in Jesus Christ crucified and resurrected and ascended to the Right Hand of God. Beyond that, we believe in Grace.

    Christians do not disagree on that even if they happen to disagree about some of the particulars.

    Once again, Robert, you ere because instead of putting any thought into your reply, you merely reacted. Even so, I’m glad I could provide a little space for you to vent your angst and the things that piss you off.

    your friend,

  3. “The assumption that faith is invalid evidence for truth.”

    Well, seems like a really really good assumption to me. But of course we have a little problem with the definiton of the word “truth”. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  4. One,

    I hope you are not suggesting that because you accept Darwinism that you are someone an authority on truth???

    There is only one truth and everything that is true comes from Him. His Name is Jesus. He said, “I am the Truth.”

    After reading a number of your replies, I highly doubt that you are in a position to be the arbiter of what is and is not Truth.


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