Forsyth on the Unity of the Church

Friends,

I had a nice conversation with some friends over the past week concerning the Unity of the Body of Christ. It was good fun. I have the following quote posted on my sidebar, but in light of the conversation, I thought I would give it a proper place on the front page.

“The whole history of the church shows that there can be no standing unity of faith, spirit, or fellowship between those to whom Christ’s death is but a great martyrdom and those to whom it is the one atonement of the world and God, the one final treatment of sin, the one compendious work of grace, and the one hinge of human destiny.”–PT Forsyth, The Cruciality of the Cross, 19
Have a nice Thursday evening.
Soli Deo Gloria!
jerry
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  1. Jill

    Is not the central place of unity at the communion table ? which is where we remember His death on the cross?
    abide in Him,
    jill

  2. Hi

    Jesus did not die on Cross. Please don’t mind. In my opinion he survived death on Cross, as he promised to show sign of Jonah. And Jonah entered the belly of fish alive, remained alive in the belly of the fish and came out alive from the belly of the fish. Similarly Jesus entered the tomb where he was laid after he was delivered from the Cross, in a precarious condition but nevertheless alive. Jesus remained alive in the tomb and came out of it alive. Since he never died on the Cross, there is no question of his resurrection from the dead. This has been proved by the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 from several arguments from the Quran, NTBible and the medical and the history. Kindly visit my blogsite for your comments and/or discussions on the posts/pages there if you like. Differing opinions are also welcome.

    I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  3. Paar,

    Thanks for the reply, but not only is your statement worth disagreeing with, but it is simply factually wrong. If the Romans knew how to do anything it was kill a man and the entire New Testament witnesses that Jesus was, in fact, dead. If he didn’t die, then he could not have resurrected from the dead. And if he did not resurrect from the dead then my faith in his promise to raise me from the dead is futile. This is the witness of the first Christians, the New Testament, early church history, history, medical science, Josephus, and others.

    With all due respect to your Muslim faith, the Qu’ran informs us very little about Jesus of Nazareth, and of course the most glaring omission is that of Jesus’ death. The bottom line is that if Jesus did not die, then he did not rise; if he did not rise from the dead then Christian faith is futile, we are still condemned by our sin, we have no hope for life, and we are determined to be false witnesses.

    I’m glad you love Jesus. I am glad you love Mary although she is just another human being and only remotely worthy of special consideration. I’m glad you love Muhammed since we should love our neighbors as ourselves. But apart from faith in Jesus as the propitiation for our sins, the atoning sacrifice, well, if I may: you simply have no hope beyond this life. Islam makes no provision for sin. That is why Jesus died.

    jerry

  4. Hi
    The bottom line stated by you is correct.
    The bottom line is that if Jesus did not die, then he did not rise; if he did not rise from the dead then Christian faith is futile.
    Jesus did not die on Cross, so he did not rise from the dead and that makes the christian faith to be corrected. This is what is the purpose of Second Coming of Jesus which has already taken place in the form of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908. This is to be understood.
    I respect your faith.
    Kindly visit my blogsite for your comments and/or discussions on the posts/pages there if you like. Differing opinions are also welcome.

    I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  5. Paar,

    Thanks for the input. We will have to disagree on this one because you don’t seem to be a very good student of history. I visited your blog, and I couldn’t make much sense of it. I’ll try again later perhaps.

    jerry




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